Well, I can assure you that there is also intense frustration in Europe about the complete asymmetry of treatment of US airlines - the fact that post 9/11 they have been given major subsidies to keep them going when European airlines have had to keep their own houses in order or go out of business - the fact that they expected subsidised fuel if the price increased. Have they never heard of "risk"??!!! The fact that they expect to be able to displace the slots of existing operators at LHR, that they expect to have the right to operate where they choose across Europe when European airlines have limited right of access into the US, let alone inside the US. The fact that the rules are such that European operators have to be basically owned by Americans to allow free access to the US market place. The fact that they can dictate operating conditions to airlines from other nations that are way beyond what local regulatory authorities normally do (flight deck doors [OK, so that was probably for the best] - and the stuff about not allowing queues for toilets - good grief!!!) when their own security systems are clearly not as good as those in some other countries who had to jump when they said. And finally, the fact that once they get what they want, they will simply lose interest in any further negotiations - look at the blatantly unfair situation regarding protected industries and tariffs in other areas. So as far as I'm concerned, by all means negotiate, but get it right first time, because if the US gets what it wants the first time, there won't be a second time.