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Old 8th Jun 2004, 13:31
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Capcom
 
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Thumbs down OzNAS E+ or D- or whatever the f__k it is

The latest machination is some crap called VRA (VFR Radio Area or similar)

In short, it is mandatory VFR radio in E area’s (No talk and response, No entry!)

Better than VFR not talking at all but.....

- Can anyone tell me how this fits with ICAO classifications?
- Can anyone tell me what the responsibilities are for pilots and ATC's and how they will be applied?
- Can anyone tell me why this is appropriate when it is basically D with broadcasts but without VFR clearances (Political garbage) yet an expectation of an Air Traffic Control Service being provided between VFR and IFR?

Don’t bother, I and others know the answers!

Happy to provide the services to VFR as we have in the past for FREE. But, give us (ATC) the correct tools (Clearances in D or C) we need to provide the services!. This is a legal issue for all of us!

Think long and hard you warriors ready to appease Smith with “E that ain’t”. You are setting yourselves and ATS up for a big fall! (Remember 4BC..!)

I ain’t gunna spell it out again and again, work it out you lot!

Dick Smith said in another thread:-
posted 8th June 2004 07:00

Chris Higgins, yes, I would be delighted to come to a meeting at the Airport Hilton. You organise it and I’ll be there. I’m happy to listen to all of the advice and criticism to see if we can all get together to do something to help improve aviation in Australia.
My bolding

Bollocks, you have proven here and to ATC's and Pilots in direct communication time and time again that you are incapable of listening, amending or accepting when you are WRONG!

Chris

Best of luck!

We have tried, tantamount to smashing your melon into a brick wall!

Edited to correct p1ss poor syntax

Last edited by Capcom; 8th Jun 2004 at 13:55.
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