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Old 28th May 2004 | 09:49
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whatunion
 
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whatunion: slightly melodramatic old chap.
As I'm sure you know there is no problem at all controlling "these kites" with an engine feathered providing the minimum control speed is maintained - whether or not the height you can maintain is sufficient, or whether you can gain height, is another matter and depends on a variety of factors.

no problem at all controlling these kites with an engine feathered providing the minimum contol speed is maintained!!!!!!!!!
( you forgot to mention that the gear needs to be stowed +, 5 deg bank and below max weight also)

as im sure i know!!!!!!!!!
i am sure i know that a lot of pilots have been killed trying to do just that.
so you, old chap, would say to your student, never worry about having an engine failure on these a/c because there is NO PROBLEM AT ALL in controlling them providing the minimum control speed is maintained! interesting, i hope you have a very good solicitor who can argue, " ah but he flew into the hill in perfect control!"

its all very well to have a light a/c on a good day and know you are going to feather an engine. its a complely different matter when it happens for real at max weight on the worst day.

take the aztec accident at glenrothes were a very experienced air charter pilot took off with 5 engineers on board on a c of a air test, the front cargo hatch opened and he immeadaitely feathered that side engine. the a/c hit the ground and all 5 engineers were killed.(piper say a/c will fly safely with hatch open and it will not touch prop)

then there was the guy at jersey that had just done his base check took off on 27 had an engine failure lost control and was killed just off the the south of the threshold.


you are putting in the mind of the student that the a/c will always climb away and i know you said whether it will climb is another matter. these a/c should be treated as single engine a/c in some situations. its always better to fly to the scene of the accident rather then to arrive at the scene of the accident wing tip first!
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