cib, i,m to old to apply and never have, if i had my time again i may well have gone the ba route. my point was not to criticise anything to do with pay stuctures, working hours etc etc but to highlight that when you do go for an interview you are 'scored' on everything from how you stand to how you wipe your bottom ! by people who are not qualified in any way to judge you on how you make your professional decisions. Pointless nonsense !