UNEASY, thank you. that is exactly the sort of answer I was looking for. I am a religous person. My religion being the church of SOP. I find it hard to swallow a Trainer telling me you MUST do it this way etc., when it is a recommendation not a rule.I am all for safe practices, but this 1000fpm limit at altitude seems a bit over the top all else being equal. cheers...PB