Same problem for flights out of BKK!! The duty time is an abstract consideration for the BPA management... By the way, do you know the salary of a B767 relief pilot at BPA? 700 Euros! Yes my friends : SEVEN HUNDRED EUROS!!! Less than a chief purser : an incredible "great" income for the "third man" of the flight deck. This is not unrelated to the lack of motivation of many pilots.