FlyinDutch, you are absolutely right... I didn't make the comparison with driving too fast, which is just as illegal. Mind you, I got a speeding ticket last year. First in 20 years accident free driving (ish). Now, I stick to the limits because I can't afford to lose my licence. So what do we do, possibly give an endorsment valid for a period of time which is in effect, "you have had your last chance and are on probation for X months"? That would probably work!!