flightrider, checking your previous posts its highly likely we know each other... my point is that every time theres a rumour posted on PPRuNe, certain paranoid people squeal that it must be excel trying to bring down another company by posting on this website whereas in reality both EAAC and AV8 have been brought down by their own failings. This is clear when you read the postings from those on the inside, and are in possession of the FACTS. I was trying to show that people post about airlines in trouble all the time, and they're not ALL working for Phil Wyatt.