Chilli Monster/Genghis - since the two of you obviously agree, why are we all still arguing?
You have both cited cases where you have received an instruction/request from ATC which was illegal, and you have both given examples of how the pilot should (in fact, must) decline this instruction/request. So now that we all agree on that, let's get some beers in, shake hand, and be friends??? I have no problem with spirited arguments from time to time, but it usually helps if there's a point on which you disagree to be arguing about!
FFF
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