I spoke with a few ground staff today and some of them applied as internal's back in November 2002 and were put onto the waitlist like everyone else. WELL, they told me they received advice from HR that ground schools will be commencing in July 2004 and they will be advised in June 2004 of a start date. They didnt know if it was long or short but it would be permanent as QF internal applicants go into permanent positions. So things may finally be looking up for some.