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Old 21st December 2025 | 16:05
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From: FLSomething
Originally Posted by Googlebug
Downside T&Cs at airlines continue to slip. Working environments getting harder with shorter rest periods and it's becoming a career almost impossible to continue full time until retirement.

If you're lucky enough to get a foot in the door at many other professional industries (not all). They've had massive pay increases and are on par with aviation now, large bonuses are returning + the new normal for a bit (significant chunk at some places) of WFH makes many look like very attractive perspectives compared to the antisocial hours and declining T&Cs in aviation.

If I was advising a young adult keen on flying I'd say get a job outside aviation but encourage them to enjoy it as a hobby with a PPL.
Really? Ts&Cs are doing well across the board because of the pilot supply becoming more restricted. Whilst there’s still a long way to go to an actual ‘shortage’, it seems a great time.

Pop out of flight school, join easyJet at 20 and we’re looking at the right side of 150K as a captain by 25/26. It’s easy to say every job in industry makes this sort of money but they just don’t. Not even remotely close to it. We’re looking at being in the top 2% of earners in our mid 20s. For a job that needs half a dozen GCSEs and takes about 18 months to train for…

And the best bit is that it’s a fab job. I’d take 150K to ping around Europe flying for ezy over doing 70h a week staring at spreadsheets in an office in the middle of London any day of the week. No copeorate nonsense, no endlessly changing targets, no burnout by 40.

The hours are the hours. I don’t see how a fixed pattern at Ryanair today is notably worse than a fixed pattern at Ryanair 20 years ago. The employment practices are definitely much improved..!
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