Originally Posted by
Pilot DAR
Your participation is voluntary.
I'm pretty sure that TC do not want to be telling flying schools whom to hire.
Again, who would do the "forcing"?
I'm guessing that flying schools hire instructors with the experience that the candidate brings to the school in mind. If the instructor is a class 4, that school can probably manage that, while that instructor progresses. During my second round as a student pilot, both of my instructors were +10,000 hour experience pilots (which is why I chose that school). One was an examiner, so I did quite a lot of training with the other instructor, so the examiner could do my ride later. I entered that training with several thousand hours PIC, so I really knew what I was expecting in an instructor. I could care less what class they were, it was their experience in flying I wanted. One was actually a so-so instructor, but he kept me safe while I learned, and allowed me to learn to my capacity - that was all I needed - I knew that if he was quiet, and his hands were on his lap, I was learning safely. Occasionally, there was a "Let me show you..." There was never an "I have control!". That cockpit calm and experience was all I needed.
On the other hand, I have flown with instructors who were like nervous squirrels in the cockpit - that does not instill confidence. Once, I was asked to fly back a school's instructor, after he dropped off the school's 150. I guess that he was not relaxed about my takeoff, as I saw his hands pass uselessly through the space where the right side control wheel would have been, had I had it installed in my plane. His hands continued awkwardly to his lap. He later reported to the CFI that I "was flying my airplane around below stall speed.". The CFI (who knew me well) just asked him: "How?"
Building experience is a challenge, every pilot has been there. If you can do it instructing, then you should. But being a pilot on the rise, with an instructor rating, is not the keys to the kingdom, you're in the queue with many other pilots seeking to build experience. Your best path to advancement is to offer something to the school which makes you stand out above the other candidates. One thing you might offer is your willingness to work within the system that everyone else has advanced with.
To answer your original question ('cause I did think about it), all the flying schools I know do hire from their graduating pilot/instructor group. But, I'm not really on that side of the industry any more, so keep trying. Just avoid telling the CFI that [you] I think the Canadian system is extremely stupid and flawed. It doesn't sound positive.
I had the opportunity not many have, which is getting training in 2 different countries, including written exams and flight test. So I can take best of both worlds, and hence why my comment about the Canadian method, but not only from the CARs requirements perspective, but also the lack of accountability and avoiding public input by TC (unlike the FAA), making matters worse than why they ought to be.
How can TC force them to hire? The same way med schools are paramedic schools do - make the class 4 part of the training, so one can not graduate until they have 100 hours of instruction, and the 3-3 recommends. Ain't no one attending a school they can't get their license from.
For example - In Ontario, to get your school bus license you need to pass a road test, but the license is only temporary. The only way to make it permanent is by passing
government-approved School Bus Driver Improvement Course (SBDIC). Than, and only than, you will be getting your permanent license. The result? no school that is offering your B license will do so without the SBDIC, as no one will attend them. Like you said, it's voluntary, TC can change the regs and FTU will have to deal with it.
And my examiner concurred, something have to give, or the way he put it - maybe add the 100-100 requirement for class 1 (so any class 2 must have 100 approved recommends of class 4 recommend flight test, with 80% passing in the first attempt, and 100 solo approvals), to show they have met their supervisory burden (remember, you don't actually need to supervise to upgrade to a class 1).
I also disagree that having 10,000 of hours will make you a better instructor, because it takes more than flying skills, it takes human skills, and those can't be taught or gained by flying for the airlines. My class 1 was NEVER an airline pilot, but he was doing instructor instruction for the past 6 years, and he is damn good at it. Hack, my instrument-commercial-multi instructor had less than 1500 hours, but he was also good at it.
Building experience is a challenge, every pilot has been there. If you can do it instructing, then you should. But being a pilot on the rise, with an instructor rating, is not the keys to the kingdom, you're in the queue with many other pilots seeking to build experience. Your best path to advancement is to offer something to the school which makes you stand out above the other candidates. One thing you might offer is your willingness to work within the system that everyone else has advanced with.
I agree, but also disagree. Canada has never being in such oversaturated environment, and just to show you by how much - most schools are booked until mid 2026 with instructor rating course. Unless TC, and the Canadian government take action about the matter, it won't be the same, ever.