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Old 21st February 2004 | 17:51
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Fly Through
 
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First off EuroATC & ShooTheGap

Not gonna waste my time discussing this further, we obviously will never agree so I'm happy to agree not too and to make better use of this forum.

Sheikh Y

Sorry mate, we've just got a brand new primary and a 'mode S capable' secondary system. You need the radar anyway, if only to scare yourself crapless at how close the morons actually get and how much they don't follow your instructions anyway

As for our ATIS, new one is installed but we're not allowed to use it yet???????? As for the crap on it, agree entirely, way too long but then it's not the most user friendly pieces of equipment.

410

Hmmm procedures, nothing to do with us, we get all our procedures forced on us by the GCAA ivory tower by people who don't have a clue what we do here. Afraid it ain't gonna change anytime soon either. As for an emergency, you tell us what you want to do and we'll move heaven & earth so you can, so suggest you brief what you want to do from the beginning. As for pestering you at the wrong moment, yeh that'll be the lack of experience at anywhere but here showing. I will always do my utmost to let you alone until you've got the aircraft all settled down.

In Cat II consitions the procedures are set in stone. Once IRVR's below 1500m are being reported we have no option but to go into LVPs and using 12L. Again absolutely no flexibilty is permitted by controllers. Extremely f ing frustrating from our point of view, especially with the 15nm and 30nm gaps required on finals (see Nimmers post above).

Now a question for you, what's with the 2mins required by your SOPs behind previously departing aircraft? There's no way you can get away with that kind of thing in Europe, surely? If you must then advise us early ie. when your following the problem aircraft down Kilo and not when you're actually given the take off clearance.

Captain Over

The whole airspace is being looked at as we speak, an Australian company has been brought in to re-evaluate our airspace in a joint Emirates/DCA scheme. When will we hear anything? Inshallah

Rgds FT

Ps. To all our 'controllee's', if there is something that needs changing or infringes on safety here at Dubai please, please, please report it to your bosses. From the 'hour' long ATIS to excessive delays file reports to the company, whatever we say falls on deaf ears so maybe an irate customer would help
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