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Old 23rd July 2025 | 13:26
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Originally Posted by dhorgan
I recall only too well the (justified) painfull lead up and eventual introduction of CVR's into the industry.
Many in Management did not appreciate Pilots real concerns and many Pilots displayed a degree of undue paranoia.
The intro eventually came to pass and 'yes' it has been a plus for aviation safety.
CVR has certainly been a plus for aviation safety. Notably, it doesn't record voices only, but also any sound audible in the cockpit, and those non-voice sounds have often been valuable to investigators.

Now In 45 years flying, with various organisations, I cannot recall a single incident where a colleague was 'gunned' because of the CVR
It probably did happen but I never experienced it. There are bad guys on all sides so negatives are inevitable.
I think the aftermath of the Delta 1141 crash in 1988 was such an incident. The pilots didn't set the flaps and slats for takeoff. The CVR revealed that they'd spent the taxi time chatting with a flight attendant instead of doing their jobs. They were fired.

I'm in favour of CCTV but like St Agustine, not just yet. The appaling change in western society 'normalisation' of dishonest behaviour and the carry on of those in modern day politics give me real grounds for concern. As long as it's profit before principal I'm a no vote.
Would not that argument also hold against CVR? Should CVR therefore be removed?

Anyway, video recording is an extra cost, so impacts profits, so "profit before principle" would oppose video recording.
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