Originally Posted by
tdracer
As I understand it, Kegworth both pilots agreed on the engine - it's just that they were both wrong.
Things like EICAS/ECAM have made it far easier to correctly identify a malfunctioning engine - are pilots being appropriately trained to use that?
Exactly, engine identification is the issue, not the execution.
The issue with "vibration" has always caused confusion, back in the BMI days and still today... we even had those discussions on the 777.
Birdstrikes might lead to surges/stalls, but with airframe vibrations, many crews will consider it "severe damage". Which is what this crew did. So maybe they identified the wrong engine. But if the discussion now ends up in a "yes both engines were vibrating, but engine X was the only engine providing electrical power and was the wrong engine to shut down", we are not done with the Boeing 737 procedures and blaming pilots is just too simple office talk. This would be a fun sim scenario by the way...
So yes, the BIG question should be brought to the Boeing table: why no EICAS to help the situational awareness? (I know, money) Allowing correct identification is key here.