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Old 13th July 2025 | 21:48
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bafanguy
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Originally Posted by hans brinker
...EVERY airline in the US is 100% unionized... The way the unions work here is called closed shop. You can elect to not join but will still have to pay 80%ish of the dues for the benefits you receive.
hans,

I'll hate myself in the morning but I'll just add a bit of specific detail to your comments. I usually don't get involved in word games but for some reason I'm wading in here.

"Every" airline in the US is not 100% unionized. For example, at Delta the only unionized groups are the pilots and dispatchers...no one else (there have been several failed attempts to unionize the F/As). There may be others I can't recall off the top of my head.

And we don't have "closed" shops. That's, for the most part, prohibited by the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947. We have "agency shop" where being a card-carrying union member isn't required but a representation fee for non members is. And if I recall correctly, a refusal of a non member to pay this fee requires termination (I stand ready to be corrected on this but it's what I recall).

I'll mostly go back to minding my own business now.

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