PPRuNe Forums - View Single Post - Helicopter crash New York City
View Single Post
Old 27th May 2025 | 20:45
  #443 (permalink)  
JohnDixson
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,017
Likes: 165
From: Hobe Sound, Florida
Grew up in NYC, thru high school anyway but got involved in helicopters and in 1972 had an experience kinda related to this problem and was exposed to a convenient alternative solution.
Place and Mission: German Army ( HEER ) base, Buckeburg, Germany. 1972. Flight demonstration of the Sikorsky S-67 Gunship to the German Army aviation community by giving German Army pilots the opportunity to fly the S-67.
Guest Pilot: Oberst ( Colonel ) Joachim Ott, Base Commander. Note: Col. Ott was known to us. He had been checked out in the CH-53 at the factory prior to the CH-53G being produced in Germany.
Weather: Low overcast at 4-500 ft, with visibility clear below the overcast.
Flight Commentary: Cleared the pattern after takeoff, and with me flying took it to Vh which was approx 176-8 KIAS and some basic maneuvering as limited by the ceiling, then handed it over to the Colonel ( very good stick BTW ) who liked to fly lower than I did. So, we are maybe 200, mostly less and I’m certain we are going to cause trouble with the Buckeburg inhabitants.
ICS:
Dixson: ( as we are now not far above the house TV antennas ) “ Col Ott, isn’t this a bit low-don’t you get noise complaints?
Col. Ott: Yes we do, John, I make it a point that I get the noise complaints by answering them on the telephone personally”
Dixson: Col. Ott what do you tell them?”
Col. Ott: “ I ask them are they sure it is one of our helicopters?”
Dixson: “ And what do they answer, Colonel?”
Col. Ott: “ they say, oh Colonel,we know it is one of your helicopters we can see your identification:.The German Cross.
Dixson: And you respond?”
Col. Ott: “Are you sure it isn’t a Red Star?
Dixson: And?
Col. Ott: “ they say: oh no Colonel we know its your helicopters because they don’t have a red Star”
Dixson: “And?
Col. Ott: “Be thankful for that and I hang up”
Dixson: Don’t some of them call back?
Col. Ott: “ They never call back”

I told this story to our Ch. Pilot upon return to the US. Suggested he try the Colonel Ott approach, but all I got was a look that said my next performance appraisal was in jeopardy.