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Old 2nd April 2025 | 23:10
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CVividasku
 
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I would need to see some crashes having happened around the world, in the last years, that are due to this "problem" at the same extent that it is at my airline.

I am yet to see one accident that is due to incorrect use of callout, except the example mentioned above. It proves that no callouts at all is stupid, but since I'm not advocating for getting rid of them altogether, it doesn't contradict my point. My point is not to defend a comeback to 1970s' CRM, not at all. I am not advocating the possibility to replace "gear up" with "put them all in", not at all.
I am advocating the possibility to say "speed is slowing down", as speed is still above target (but will continue to decrease below) instead of saying the callout "speed" 5 seconds later when speed is already below the target.

I would like to see if professionals trained in a modern way (do not dig up a 50 year old story from USSR...) , who used callouts and standard phraseology in a reasonable way but with some mistakes, inconsistencies, leniency, and ever crashed, specifically due to that.
A situation in which one of the crew recognized the situation, tried to vocalize it using plain language, and it didn't work, where callouts and standard phraseology would have worked.
And preferably a situation in which both crew spoke the same language or at least had a decent level of understanding and expression in their common language.
If so, I would be more than happy to change my point of view and edit the "bark single words" part of my posts which would become inappropriate and uncalled for.

I'm not a native english speaker, but I'm a big fan of being more demanding about english proficiency for aviation operators.
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