My intention was not to blame the balpa reps who have represented us so well at great personal cost. . .My post was to highlight the massive task they now have because the Virgin CC has provided the precedent for illegal demotions.. .Beardy. Just look at your own ranting and raving and the effect it has on those around you and the lack of respect the pilots have for you and look the cost to JMC. 15 middle managers resignining from flight operations is a sad indictment of you and your friends. When the GrandMaster finally sails into the sunset we look forward to the man from the Emerald Isle dealing with the Orangemen who have ruined this operation. Maybe then you drummers and square dancers will stop your ranting and raving and let the professionals run this airline. Enjoy your meal.