Originally Posted by
john_tullamarine
A very useful and valuable discussion for those who might read it. As a now pilot theory instructor, I try to push the takeaway to be along the lines of "if you are pulling hard while rolling, pull a bit more gently". Most pilots have no objective way to measure what loads they might be applying, so a generic approach might be the next best way to reduce the chance of their killing themselves ?
JT Good advice
It should not be lost on people that for the majority of the airborne time, a jet transport does not have the manoeuvre margin to get even close to the 2/3 limit load.
Also, the design limit rolling input could be seen as fairly aggressive: at Va - full roll control, at Vc - the same roll rate at achieved at Va, at Vd - one third the roll rate achieved at Va.
Interestingly, during maximum rate turn manoeuvres fighter pilots, to avoid reducing the G loading, change bank angle to correct pitch attitude and airspeed speed error. The roll inputs, in these cases are relatively small.