just wanted to pick up on something mentioned by D3G.
'whinging and slagging off their employer because they can't get more'
It's not realy a case of getting more, it's a case of avoiding getting less. Avoiding getting longer rosters, that start earlier and end later, it's avoiding each batch of new recruits getting progressively worse 't&c'. It's about being able to have a voice in the company that will be listened to without the threat of management being heavy handed.
I think MOL has got lots of things right, but at the same time he has got somethings wrong. There has to be a balance between profit and fair treatment of employees.