Originally Posted by
SASless
Re-impose all of the sanctions as were in effect that almost saw the Iranian government go bankrupt and impose sufficient new sanctions to achieve that end.
Follow up by a major effort to support unrest amongst the Iranian people and perhaps we shall see the end of the current regime.
Appeasement and calling for cease fires has never worked....the other side has to understand it has lost and must make the best deal possible... but must accept they cannot prevail and must accept the terms being offered.
Negotiation can only succeed if you are in a "winning" position and the opponent knows and accepts that it is not and is in a clear losing situation.
What one experienced negotiator had to say....
Hitler was intent upon War....was way ahead of Great Britain in its preparing for that War and thus felt to be in a superior position and in the end that Agreement was not worth the paper it was written upon.
Originally Posted by
Chugalug2
SASless:-
That delay was what was needed to stop Hitler at the Channel.
Are you saying that Chamberlain was wrong? What should he have done instead?
It has been fashionable to denigrate the actions of Chamberlain for the last 85 years, and yet, when he returned to England in his Lockheed 14 to Heston, on 29 September 1938, his actions by design or happenstance gave the grace period to ramp up production of home defence aircraft, and to refine the chain home radar system that was starting to be positioned by 1938 but did not have an effective integration of control protocols, they took time to sort out. In 1935, the defence white paper made a case that in light of the threat that Hitler was perceived to be from his actions in 1933, the UK would not be in shape to fight a war before 1939. Chamberlain was well aware of that assessment when he went to Berchtesgaden on 15 Sept 38, Bad Godesberg on 22 sept 38, and finally the infamous 30 Sept 38 return from the Munich meeting.
Seems just a bit unreasonable to blame a leader for wishing for peace while in the background his cabinet was putting together the tools that were needed to oppose the aggression they knew was likely to occur. Chamberlain had the courage to draw a line which he obviously wanted to avoid, but he did that. We forgive in part Churchill for his disasters in the Dardanelles, and pay respect to his oratory and ability to squeeze lemonade out of the lemons that were the reality of the RN, RA and RAF in 1940, which is reasonable, but we fail to see Chamberlain in the same light.
Right now, we are listening and observing in near real time FPV a rhyme of history on our smartphones, iPads and other devices and hear the whinges of the cost of a latte due to the apparently "unreasonable" support of a nation that has been viciously attacked by an aggressor who has a history of recidivism in disregard of human rights. war crimes, international treaties and anything other than lining their Demi gods pockets with loot. Not much honour floating about other than the Ukrainian troops that are bearing the cost of doing the rest of the worlds work for them, while we whinge about the cost while not allowing them to strike their foe at the launch location of the attacks. Our Latte cost, their blood, seems a bit out of balance.
The West appeased Putin, surprise... what happened then?