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Old 15th September 2024 | 08:30
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Originally Posted by Uberteknik
Methinks the real problem here is the end game and what happens post Ukraine win. We've been here before with Iraq and Afghanistan by leaving a power vacuum and a bottomless pit to throw resources into because there was no plan for what happens after. If Russia loses it will be deja-vu without planning for that eventuality although this time one hopes there is indeed a contingency plan. Perhaps this is the real reason for the delays because we have not trashed the Russian economy enough or decoupled global-dependency enough to be certain Putin will not remain in power and able to rebuild his armies and put in place a successor for another go to attempt assimilating Ukraine in the next decade. The Yale University Timothy Snyder lecture series 'Making of Modern Ukraine' is absolutely worth the effort to get a great understanding of the history and parallels leading up to the 2022 invasion.

I can give you a very way simple way of sorting out these problems Uberteknik.
1. Give Ukraine all the systems it needs to target Russian airfields, command nodes, troop concentration areas, bridges, energy infrastructure, petro-chemical plants and refineries.
Make the border area sanitised for 100miles.
2. Give back the Kursk Region in exchange for the occupied territories including Crimea and make Sevastopol a UN protectorate with no military bases, but a FreePort.
3. Extending to 50miles inside the Ukrainian Eastern Border is the largest NATO training area ever conceived.
4. Ukrainian Membership of NATO and the EU, with a fully integrated armed forces.
5. Kaliningrad is renamed Danzig and handed to Poland.
6. A "Humanitarian Corridor" is created by NATO / European Troops from the Polish border to Lviv then onto Odesa, Kyiv.
We can deal with Moldova, reparations and Putin later.
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