Originally Posted by
Obba
Going out on a limb here...
I think that Ukraine will be allowed to strike inside Russia from the UN meeting.
If true: If Iran (outside country), is really supplying Russia with missiles and they are being fired into Ukraine, then It's a bit bizarre why Ukraine can't fire (outside country), supplied missiles into Russia...
IMO, this delay is after the meeting at the Whitehouse, is just a move to show that the West has thought all this through and have 'even consulted' with the EU and other NATA members, before allowing it.
As I have posted before, I cannot believe that the EU/NATO countries 'next/after' if Ukraine falls are going to allow it. It just seems incredible to me, that the West/EU will allow Russia to continue.
It's going to be far far cheaper ($ and Lives), to stop Putin (and cronies), now, than in Russia's next leader having another go - maybe into Finland/Poland - in 20 years....
And Germany is going to do what in 50 years, after Finland/Poland has been freed of Nazi's..?
Stop this Nazi/Freedom rubbish now.
Can someone please enlighten me?
1) The territory's that Russia captured (Donetsk and Luhansk), was this Russia's only objective (de-nazify). And would they have just taken these places and not gone any further?
2) Was Crimea (2014), a De-Nazify, objective?
3) If Russia had taken over Kiev, would they have 'now' taken all of Ukraine over as Crimea?
Methinks the real problem here is the end game and what happens post Ukraine win. We've been here before with Iraq and Afghanistan by leaving a power vacuum and a bottomless pit to throw resources into because there was no plan for what happens after. If Russia loses it will be deja-vu without planning for that eventuality although this time one hopes there is indeed a contingency plan. Perhaps this is the real reason for the delays because we have not trashed the Russian economy enough or decoupled global-dependency enough to be certain Putin will not remain in power and able to rebuild his armies and put in place a successor for another go to attempt assimilating Ukraine in the next decade. The Yale University Timothy Snyder lecture series 'Making of Modern Ukraine' is absolutely worth the effort to get a great understanding of the history and parallels leading up to the 2022 invasion.