DONKEY DUKE- Not that I haven't done some flaming on this board myself, but I have never bragged on anybody. You obviously are of little management value nor do you appear to carry even the slightest amount of compassion for human beings that everybody in this industry must have in order for us all to be "safe". If you anywhere on the senior ladder with an opinion that matters you might be able to conceptualize what I am trying to say. Phil Condit is a true a**hole, but you will never know it talking to him in a croud.