Originally Posted by
Sailvi767
The autopilot was not on in the Max accidents. To have survived they needed to disable the trim system via the large red guarded trim disable switches and adjusted power to maintain an appropriate aiespeed. They did neither. Still with the auto trim interruption system via stick position and counter trim the Captains on both flights were able to maintain controluntil they handed the aircraft over to very inexperienced co pilots.
Only about 50% of that is true - you need to read the reports and especially attend to the FDR graphs and compare all three flights, each progressively worse; Ethiopian particularly badly handled. Underlined is true, strikeout is false, underline strikeout is partly true. Not going to rehash the reports.