Originally Posted by
Sailvi767
The autopilot was not on in the Max accidents. To have survived they needed to disable the trim system via the large red guarded trim disable switches and adjusted power to maintain an appropriate aiespeed. They did neither. Still with the auto trim interruption system via stick position and counter trim the Captains on both flights were able to maintain control until they handed the aircraft over to very inexperienced co pilots.
Is that quite complete? I believe they needed FIRST to return the aircraft to (approx) stable trim, i.e. reverse any MCAS input, THEN disable electric trim.