Originally Posted by
boongcactus
Afaps approach is the only approach that actually will get anything from the company. AIPA may have got the qf short haul conditions better back in the 90 and 00’s but it’s a very different beast now compared to back then and the are more than happy going to war with all there staff. Sadly there is no negotiations that work with the company. It’s stall for a few years then either 3 percent or give up something or threaten. Why anyone in a subsidiary or even mainline would be with aipa is beyond me. They would throw you under the bus to serve their own agenda. They are way too close to the company. Well done network pilots. I hope this is the turning of the tide for our industry.
What garbage. Over the last 20 years AIPA has had to negotiate under far tougher circumstances that AFAP and they still represent the best EA’s in the country.
Being the top conditions has put a target on their back and Qantas have tried every trick in the book, over decades, to cut them down;
starting a new airline, using a foreign AOC, buying up subsidiaries to take over the flying, locking-out pilots during PIA, overt and public threats to start a greenfields operation if an EA is not signed, etc, etc. Yet after 20+ years of this Mainline still has the best EA’s in the country, no pilot has been made redundant and there are no less jobs in mainline now than 20 years ago.
AFAP were never confronted with these company tactics in negotiating the JQ, EFA or Network EA’s, yet all 3 were sitting
below the industry safety net up until a year ago. So (some of) those pilots would have been paid more if their AFAP negotiated EA’s were ripped up. Some achievement.
So before you rewrite history. Look at the actual results achieved and the circumstances involved.
I sincerely hope the Network pilots achieve a big win and get the conditions they deserve. With no threat to move the flying elsewhere and the Award guaranteeing conditions can’t be reduced from where they are, you’re in a perfect position to push hard for what you’re worth.
It will be the pilots themselves who deserve the credit for bucking the advice of both unions and the company demands, and pushing for what they really deserve.
Good luck.