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Old 13th Feb 2024, 01:50
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Originally Posted by YeahNup
No one is shooting them; just wondering if they will help the FOs feed their families while the "well-heeled" pursue their agenda of burning it down and then returning to HK.
Having flown in Mainline with quite a few ex CX Pilots of the same era I agree that their mindset would likely be to either achieve a fair & reasonable outcome for Crew or “wreck the joint”. They’ve got the financial security, experience (both Life & flying) and determination to follow through.

For everyone else, with evidence of a genuine Crew shortage supplied by Network Mgmt themselves ie Total experience required is now 500 hours, the prospect of landing any other Pilot job is extremely favourable if indeed the joint does “burn”

It would behoove the QF IR Team to recognise these facts.

Objectively speaking, it is highly likely that this situation will lead to an intractable bargaining hearing in two or three months' time, at the earliest. Following this, FW will grant IB. The FW commissioners will take around six months to determine an outcome
Objectively observing, what is the real likelihood of Gina or Twiggy allowing this cluster f@ck damage their businesses for 3 to 6 months?

Qantas can end this today by genuinely returning to the table.

using the 2016 EA (not the recently voted-down proposal) as a starting point, and the most recent modern award conditions as guidelines. They may or may not consider other EAs of similar types of businesses, but it's important to note that "same job, same pay" does not apply here.
If this scenario actually materialises and the Network T &C’s actually deteriorate, how long will it take for those ex CX Crew to tender their resignation en masse?

Pyrrhic victory indeed for QF.

​​​​​​​During the interim nine months, the crew will remain on the worst possible EA conditions, lose money due to PIA, and may or may not end up on an EA that could be better, worse, or equivalent to what has been voted down.
Are you objectively really purporting that this disruption will be tolerated for 9 months?

If the COVID lockouts QF MGMT placed on their workforce taught us anything, we can actually survive much better than we thought on much less.

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