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Old 3rd Nov 2023, 12:58
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Lonewolf_50
 
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Originally Posted by PukinDog
There's only one way to find out, but it'll have to be a fancy drone carrier battle group in order to keep it Air War-related.
You don't necessarily need a carrier to launch and recover drones/UAVs. (As but one example, see the USN's MQ8 Fire Scout).
Originally Posted by Asturias56
"A large share of the blame for what is now happening in the Middle East as a whole results from political decisions made by poorly educated European politicians over a century ago,"

I think they were pretty well educated TBH - but they were trying to make sense out of the collapse of the Turkish Empire - and, of course, to push their own national agendas. I don't think anyone wanted a large, dominating leadership in the area to replace the Turks. And the individual local groups - Egyptians, Lebanese, Palestinians, Arabs, etc etc all wanted a piece of the cake for themselves. This was the time when Europe was also split into fragments of the Austro-Hungarian and Turkish Empires - with the Balkans mess still a headache even now.

The issue in both areas is that over several millennia different ethnic and religious groups are intermingled on the ground - and if they can't get on with each other (Ulster anyone?) then mayhem ensues.
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Originally Posted by sfm818
Can we trust IDF spokespersons who control the narrative to be a reliable source of information.
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Interesting points (I added the spoiler to avoid visual clutter) but I'll remind you that Reagan got mixed up in Lebanon, which was a direct result of the Israeli operations against Palestinian refugees in Southern Lebanon, and the suicide truck bomb killed over 200 US Marines, and another one killed over 50 French troops.
I got to float around the Eastern Med for a while (as our ship awaited calls for naval gunfire support) during that period. A friend of mine (USMC, Phrog pilot) had an RPG go through his aircraft without exploding.
Reagan didn't quite avoid getting involved.

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