Originally Posted by
Prob30Tempo TSRA
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I think it's fairly clear that they really didn't have any clue where they were in relation to the runway - the rushed app was only the precursor
They had plenty of clues but did ignore them all. Hard to believe in their IMC environment that they pressed on. Luck goes only so far if it is not replaced by airmenship fast enough in any pilots career. I would be surprised if this crew human performance break down had not shown up earlier.