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Old 9th Sep 2023, 13:47
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biigD
 
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Originally Posted by bylgw
An observation on USA departures or at least PHX in this case. RWY 25R and 26 both have a BROAK 1 departure. LIDO labels them both the same. As opposed to European airfields where SIDs with the same name are given differentiators LHR 09R MODMI 1J. KUSA doesn’t give runway only SID. Is there a potential cross check missing here to ensure correct runway and SID?
When headed NE, almost certainly 25R will be the BROAK while 26 will be the FORPE. Many departures in the US only serve certain runways so it's easy to catch a departure mistake in the case of a runway change, but as you noted that unfortunately isn't the case here. It's possible they were offered or requested 26 while taxiing, after being all set for a 25R departure on the BROAK1 (it's a shorter taxi for AA). I'm curious if that happened here, and since they clearly were planning to fly the BROAK, they either missed the departure change or ATC missed giving the change to them. As you said, maybe the solution is to pull 26 from the BROAK and 25R from the FORPE - that would have alerted the crew to a potential issue.
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