Well, the biggest problem with achieving big EBA gains is still that there is NO shortage of pilots wanting to join Qantas. Things are different in the rest of the world as they are in competitive recruitment markets and are literally in a bidding war to attract pilots. Who is the competitor that Qantas is having to ‘outbid’. Same issue with Air NZ Mainline, who is the competitor, the only restriction on Air NZ recruitment is their self imposed recruit from Group deal. I was speaking to a subsidiary company manager recently and said that he should be concerned with the amount of FO’s looking to leave, his reply was ‘not at all we will simply recruit more’.