Originally Posted by
PoppaJo
I get that.
But what’s the first question the CP will ask you in this one? You were on a close right base for 28, why didn’t you pull the power, apply flap and land on 28? Instead they went on some bizarre low level, no flap, track alongside the runway, over buildings, that put them on the road upside down, and landing at 90kts.
If you look at the descent point here on the report, you could not pick a more perfect spot for a 28 glide approach. It was all lined up perfectly.
They got it down, and made it out alive, that’s the main thing, sure, but we all know many CPs won’t accept what went on here, considering they were set up perfectly for a glide approach for 28.
Perhaps it’s the operator and its training? Who knows. All forms part of the investigation.
I think there is two parts to this, the engine issue and the forced landing attempt.
Have to agree there, almost 2km of runway, only 400 ft on a close base, full flap and idle should have made an easy landing with lots of runway to spare. Will be very interested to see what comes out of the final report as to why they flew that path.
On partial engine failures, they can be worse than a full failure, as you can get stuck between whether you need to land, or have enough to make it somewhere better. As said above, once an engine has lost some of it's power to a component failure, how likely is that it will lose more power progressively or suddenly. I know of several partial failures that have ended up off runway as the engine progressively lost more power the longer they were airborne. I usually threw a partial failure at a student in the form of saying that they had x amount of power, and they had to come up with a plan to deal with it. I was never looking for an exact procedure, apart from following the same engine failure trouble checks and looking for somewhere to land as soon as possible, knowing it could lose all power very quickly. It was more to prove an engine 'failure' does not always mean total power loss, but you can still use the same checks to try and restore power. Sometimes after they had planned to fly to x, i'd pull the power to idle and say, 'it just quit', turning it into a regular PFL.