Some of you chaps need to get a grip, military or civil, who cares, you'll find good, questionable and bad in both arenas, have been on both sides of the divide. For those deriding the military I can recall landing a civil helo at Mascot and hovering to the QF hangar for loading aboard a QF 747 Combi, the route took us past the TAA finger and a DC-9 crew went bananas about a GA aircraft operating on THEIR AIRPORT delaying THEIR pushback. Guess Ansett must have been ahead on the race to the threshold.