Originally Posted by
Clare Prop
43" if you are going to present statistics you need to cite your source and please provide a link.
Anyone can say "Statistics show dot dot dot", the media do it all the time, but to analyse statistics correctly and have a sensible debate you need to know more, a lot more.
For a start the sample sizes of the USA and Aus would be very different, have your figures been adjusted for that? Are we talking about null hypothesis testing or just trying to ram a point home by belittling people who don't accept it at face value? Or something in between such as presenting data in a graphical form with a written explanation like this?
Aviation Occurrence Statistics 2010 to 2019 (atsb.gov.au)
If you don't cite your source then your argument has little merit. If you just try to shout down others then it has no merit at all.
Its all online available material from ATSB and NTSB. You are just being lazy not to look it up yourself. However, notice that the ATSB does not even provide a 'rate' of occurence in that 2010-2019 data. Previous trend data, like the 1990s data set they do provide the rates. They are avoiding the direct comparison with the US statistics. If you can't do a basic search to find this information that confirms what I'm saying then you yourself have no place commenting here, from your own words, because you are not providing any citations or opposing resources to prove that I'm wrong, just a link to the latest data set that confirms the Australian data I presented. So you sir are just shouting down anybody without any proof at all, because you have obviously not search further than that one graph you presented.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...ch_fatality_tr
Contained in that dataset is the trend data that clearly shows a reduction in fatal accident rates over that period. And accident rates in general.
The 2010-2019 dataset you presented clearly shows a higher accident rate, at almost double the 1990s figures for both accidents in general and fatal accidents compared to hours flown. This number had jumped in the mid-late 2000s and remained higher since.