Originally Posted by
TinFoilhat2
I am genuinly curios to hear from ex and current EK members regarding the toxicity at EK between pilots and management and in general, especially with the training department.
I have on good authority from about 5 EK pilots that Covid was used to clear out the dead wood, toxic pilots including trainers that nobody liked, ie some Austronaughts etc and others from other countries or just problem pilots in general.
im not an EK pilot but would like to know if things genuinely improved or is that all just nonsense and it’s just as toxic as before or did EK realize they had a real problem and have made concerted efforts to right the ship so to speak in terms of making it a more pleasant place to work.
Does anybody else know EK pilots currently employed there who can confirm this?
EK will put effort into improving things if it’s in there way to make business.
since more than half of the redundant made ones ( more or less 2/3 of 380 fleet was kicked out) has not been called back, and will be eagerly replaced by new joiners should say quite a bit.
EK has destroyed many careers, and they will do it again if needed. There might be some ease out throuout the training now as they need pilots. But as soon the demand is half way filled arrogance will toughen up on everybody. Tenor was, is and will be „take it or leave it“
EK managment will never have respect to there employees, especially as long people like STC, AAR in charge. AAR will not leave any soon, rather than even progressing forward upward.
second for the STC replacement is todays boss of Human resource, not any better than AAR.
chief of flight ops is a local and does like expats too much either while his deputy has (the big orange guys) has thrown the towel, his successor will just only fit into the entire picture.
current fleet chief airbus is a person how what’s only protect his chair. Properly the new Boeing guy won’t be any different. But no matter what these people are a like, the pressure comes from offices like AARs and these guys hate pilots, like to see an entire Emiratisation throu out the airline (which of course those not work), but that’s what your value is.
bottom line is if you are lucky you can have a good time, but if not, and that might not even be your fault, EK can be an absolute Desaster.
keep in mind 50% of your live and career there is not in your hands, never will.
Roasters are packed, utilized to the max. Things like calling fatigue, calling sick, needing medical attention can and will used against you when needed. It can and will influence your career.
Have you ever asked your self, how can it be that half a fleet is considered a bad apple to be thrown away, not being offered to return, where the demand is higher than ever?
and fact is EK could have afforded to keep all of them for 20-24 month not loosing significant more money compared to what it costs to send them home, and hire new pilots.
but admitting that make so many redundant was a mistake, makes them loosing their face, which is not an option for Arabs, therefore let the time pass, look a way, forget about it and hire new ones. New ones have of course an advantage, they don’t know what they are getting into, and leaving once there is more complicated then joining.