Originally Posted by
Slippery_Pete
I don’t work for NJS or QF, so I don’t know the finer points either.
NJS was a new EBA which was signed in. Not only was it a new agreement, it had significant degradation to T&Cs via fatigue/rostering.
Shorthaul was simply an addition of an aircraft type to an existing EBA which still had two years to run. You can’t negotiate a brand new EBA when you’re half way through the old one.
So no, completely different. But if it helps
NJS guys sleep at night, whatevs.
The A220 deal was a monumental FU. Hopefully everyone has learnt from it.
So what did SH/mainline gain? Hopefully ALOT because as you say, they didn't need to agree to anything at all as thier eba was current, and thier fleet was years away from retirement.
NJS didn't have that position, and I doubt thier cause was helped by SH/mainline saying yea sure those SI's are not a problem so we will accept your changes now rather than negotiate at eba time.
Like I said hopefully SH got some huge improvements for that, but I asked that on anothet thread and didn't get a response.
I couldn't care less either way what either group wants, but I do get the impression here there is a tone of 'the subsidiaries are to blame for all our problems' from some quarters.