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Old 6th July 2023 | 08:42
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hobbit1983
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At the risk of saying the same things over again....

Originally Posted by alexeyAP
.... for the record I wouldn't mind eating rice and beans and living in a swamp for a couple of years if it gets me to flying )....
How about ten years?

For all of your twenties, whilst your contemporaries are out partying, going on holiday, earning more, and so on? (I know you think you can earn £50k straight out of uni. This is - unfortunately - very unlikely. I would love to be proved wrong.)

Originally Posted by alexeyAP
..In any case I could just find an airline that will bond me for a bizjet or an ejet or a Dash 8 for instance (probably far easier said than done) then lay low for a few years, pay off the 25k from before and take out a new loan for the type rating. We'll see how it goes honestly, anything could happen in the future and laying out a basic plan and getting involved in aviation is the most I can do at this point.
(my bold). Yes, it is far easier said than done. I think you'll find that in reality, 'just' being bonded for a bizjet/ejet/Dash 8 is the end and very bloody desirable goal for a very large percentage of commercial pilots. This should include you! It is not just a stepping stone onto the higher plane of existence (#sarcasm) that is airline flying.

I guarantee you that if you end up saying something like that in conversation with an experienced pilot - one who may well be involved in their operation's recruitment processes in some way - you will piss them off. Even if they are that superior form of life that is the Airline Pilot (#stillsarcasm).

Originally Posted by alexeyAP
...Honestly call me optimistic..
You're optimistic.

Originally Posted by alexeyAP
but I firmly believe that hard work beats luck at least 9 out of 10 times, if I put in the hard work (starting now) I could definitely make this dream a reality.
I agree. Go for it. Hard work is important. However, you will need luck too. You will need to end up being in the right place at the right time, somehow.

Just be aware that it is almost certainly going to be a LOT harder than you think, given what you've said. Also, be warned; the aviation industry goes up and down in cycles, traditionally about a seven year cycle. We're riding high right now. In the future, there 100% will be a downturn again; and it will either be very hard to get a first flying job, or you run the very real risk of being made redundant (again) because of downsizing or companies going bust.

No company is immune. Remember that little operator called Flybe, that went bust twice? The first time - although a lot of people could see the signs - it still went kaput, and spectacularly so. That was after decades of operation; it was seen as a safe bet for ages.

You need to go find out if you can pass a class 1 medical first, before you spend any money/take out a whopping great big loan. Find out if there are any showstoppers on the medical front first.

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