Originally Posted by
BAA Training
We understand that students may have experienced issues related to a limited number of training aircraft, and we apologize for any inconvenience caused. However, we assure you that the situation has now stabilized, and each student is allocated a fair amount of flight hours for their training.
Apart from the number of training aircraft available, the total training duration is also subject to students' progress, instructor availability, and weather conditions. Therefore, it is challenging to provide a definitive timeline for when a student will complete the program. However, on average, our students complete both ground school and flight school in 18 months when training in-class and 20 months when training remotely. It's important to note that some deviations are occasionally unavoidable, and there are cases where students may complete classroom-based training in 20 months. However, we are proud to announce that recently we have been surpassing our own records, with some students completing the program in just 17-17.5 months.
It is worth noting that training disruptions partially occurred due to a severe storm that occurred in Lleida during the summer of last year. This natural hazard caused damage to our maintenance facilities and aircraft, leading to the temporary cancellation of flight training operations. During this period, we had to rely on external providers to perform maintenance on our aircraft, as our own facilities were destroyed. However, prompt action was taken to address the consequences of the storm, resulting in the swift resolution of the issue and the restoration of operational capacity. The flight school has since resumed its operations smoothly, providing uninterrupted training to our students.
Kind Regards,
BAA Training team
The situation is now 'stabilized' because
you have no more students BAA , not because you have miraculously figured out the logistics of flight training. No one is joining anymore, the max you get is like 4-5 people per intake as compared to 20-30 in the good ol days. And there is barely anyone in the flying phase, as no one is outsourcing ab initio training to you , therefore there is no backlog and therefore paying students are finishing faster. But just because things seem to move fast now doesn't mean that the face of management has changed. I said this before and I'll say it again- you are the same incompetent money leeching fools as you were yesterday , as you are today and as you will be tomorrow. You literally added fuel efficiency in your marketing text for having g1000 c172s just to sound cool, but anyone with a little bit of GA aircraft knowledge knows that it's bull****
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If your advertisement campaign were a success and you somehow managed to secure a large student intake, those students will go through the same issues as students had to go through before. You don't have the capacity to train more than 10 students for the flying phase and you would take any opportunity to f*** paying customers over for any given opportunity. The only reason why things seem to go 'smoothly' now is because the situation has changed- you finally get the
amount of students which you can sort of handle. I say sort of, because you are still having trouble with the multi engine.
Your competitors are offering a wayy better deals, FlyBy in Burgos, with 21 planes of their own and the course price is full board, meaning that it includes accommodation, 3 meals a day, all 14 CAA exam costs, ICAO english proficiency test etc. AND they get what they are promised unlike you.
EAS Barcelona, the ones from whom you rent your fleet from offer top notch maintenance, have superior facilities and most important of all
fly their own fleet in their own colors
FTE Jerez, full board, excellent fleet with minimal to no delays, successful placement of cadets in to their respective airlines. Despite companies such as Etihad outsourcing the ab initio training to them, just like turkish airlines did with you, they are able to manage smooth operations and provide fair treatment to all of their students equally, and we all know how this went in your company
and who received priority treatment. Moreover, in the end when a students hours are counted and if they have flown less than what they've paid for, they get their money returned in FTE. In yours nope. After going through the headache that you cause them in flight training, to receive a license you threat students to pay more or you do not issue the certificates for the issuance of the license.
You are a mafia and no amount of apologies will convince anyone. You already gave us a superficial apology back in 2018
Originally Posted by
BAATraining
To all BAA Training current and future pilots,
Reacting to the current situation at our Ab Initio school, we apologize for inconveniences that we have caused you.
With the growing student number at our Ab Initio school, we have added 4 additional aircraft to our fleet and a flight base in Spain in order to extend our training capabilities. Nevertheless the number of force majeure situations that appeared during few past months left us with struggles to replan flight training schedule accordingly. We acknowledge facing longer delays of flight training than initially planned for approximately 14% of our current students.
Understanding the seriousness of the issue we have done a set of steps in order to change the situation and get back to the normal flight training schedule.
We are:
- undergoing the selection processes for multi-engine and single-engine IRF and VFR instructors to join our team in December, January and February
- closing a purchase process for an additional Cessna 172 to join our fleet as we speak
- negotiating the purchase for one more Cessna 172 to be added in spring
- ready to transfer Tecnam 2006: as soon as the weather will allow the aircraft will depart from Vilnius to Lleida
The whole BAA Training Ab Initio team is putting their utmost priority and daily efforts not only to make changes but also communicate openly with our students through this process.
Does it sound familiar to the readers? Promising fleet expansion? Things will be better ? we will change for the better ? and What happened after? - the same problems still persisted and nothing changed
you kept on and you keep on promising things, which you will not and cannot fulfill and this is
a fact . None of the things which you have stated recently regarding job guarantees etc. can be backed by any sort of evidence, but the opposite- the fact that people remain unemployed as pilots after going to BAA is definitely provable
Face it BAA
the reputation damage has been done and the only students who you will be getting are the ones not clever enough to do their research about your school ie. reading forums, your google reviews and talking to alumni. Thankfully there are only a few of them, but the ideal would be 0.
You have been completely exposed and there is literally nothing that you are offering.
G1000 planes? Many schools in Europe have them and the course price is a third of what you offer with 2000% better treatment
Cadet programs? LOT failed, Avion failed, Small planet failed.
Job guarantee? You cannot even guarantee jobs to your cadets so how can you guarantee a job to other guys. Very few people who graduate from the integrated course get called to an interview, let alone land a job (unless they pay for retraining somewhere else).
Talent pool? useless, no one get recommended anywhere and the people responsible for it don't even reply.
No one has found a job through BAA through their talent pool
Airlines connections? NONE except the ones owned by your sister company, which have the worst employment conditions known to aviation in Europe. Avion express didn't even take their cadets from BAA, BlueBird is not even hiring anymore as they have a surplus of pilots and KlasJet's training is so bad that the
pilot's don't even know how to manually land a plane and let's not even talk about the salaries
Fleet? You rent it from someone else who offers the same course for way cheaper
Instructors? One was caught transporting parts illegally to Russia and you don't have many instructors as you stated
Type Rating? The thing is useless unless you have minimum 500h on type. Airlines prefer to train their employees through their own SOPs and the type rating is course where these SOPs are introduced- so it makes no sense to pay for self sponsored type rating without a job, as you'd need retraining anyways. Not mention, for someone with low hours, you cut their opportunities exponentially and increase the costs for revalidation should they require it if they do not land a job on type (which will be the most probable case if you have BAA in your CV)
In the end you offer nothing and people are seeing that. This is why you flock to these forums to implement damage control, but in reality people are seeing that you are not worth the investment
You don't deserve money nor students