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Old 13th Jun 2023, 06:15
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Lima Juliet
 
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Originally Posted by Lucifer Morningstar
I have just looked at the RAF Pay scales online and LAC to SAC earn 22-25k per year. This is the same as a cashier at Tesco, according to Indeed and Tesco's own site. The question I ask is, 'Is that fair?'. The SAC has joined to defend the nation, may go to war, and may not retuen based on the experiences of Iraq and particularly Afganistan. They will be told where to live, when to move, and may spend many months away from their family - whilst earning Tesco money. I do not dispute that the Army are recruiting at 33k, although I cannot find it. However, I can assure you that the RAF are not paying such sums. Add in appalling accommodation and a management structure that could not care less about you if you happen to be a white male, and it does not appeal as a career

I served from 1990-2018, pilot, no ground tours, no promotion, I just flew. I saw the steady decline in benefits, lifestyle and the increase in staff-speak, bull$hit bingo, and soft and fluffy wokeism in favour of being a credible fighting force. I should have left many years before I did and regret not doing so, the RAF told me that the grass was not greener outside, and I now know that to be a bare-faced lie.

My personal advice to anyone thinking of joing the RAF would be this - do it. Get in, get as much training as possible, gain every qualification on offer, then get out as fast as you can. The training and skills that the RAF will give you are hugely valued, in demand, and can bring significant compensation. But not in the RAF.
You didn’t look very hard. These are the past year’s pay scales: https://www.raf-ff.org.uk/wp-content...nd-charges.pdf

To save you looking again, then these are the salaries for Air Recruit, Air Specialist (Class 2), Air Specialist (Class 1) and Air Specialist (Class 1) Technician - the LAC and SAC that you mention are long gone!



So depending on the “Trade Supplement” then those rank groups would be on somewhere between £16,844 (as an Air Recruit) and £32,574 (as an Air Specialist (Class 1) Technician with significant seniority). Supplement 4 only applies to AAC Soldier Pilots in training, Cyber and SFC personnel, but your techies, int, air traffic and NCA are all in the Supplement 3 band.

To be really clear that is £21.5k to £32.5k in Supp 3 for techies, int, air traffic and NCA in training.

So there is a bit of fake news (or quote a “lie”) resolved in your post, right there
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