Originally Posted by
Sunfish
Dr Dre, I'm sorry for you because you have swallowed a utopian world vision that has no basis in physical reality, let alone logic and ethics, let alone philosophy and natural philosophy (Physics, Chemistry). Translation: Your world vision can't and won't happen. Furthermore, there is an even chance unless the Greens are stopped in their tracks worldwide, that they are going to be responsible for the deaths of two hundred million plus people, and that is NOW, not ten or twenty years down the track. That final charge by the way, is collateral damage from your own stupidity; I'm leaving out the possibility of war and genocide.
We start with climate science, which contains the massive conceit that the changes wrought by human activity actually matter on a planetary scale compared to the tectonic shifts in climate that happen anyway on a regular basis. We are one meteor away from another great extinction. One volcanic eruption from a new ice age. AGainst the forces of nature, our activities are but a tiny pin prick. Whatever we do, short of turning the planet into irradiated magma, will appear as a tiny, possibly undetectable, blip in the fossil record a million years from now.
You next conceit is that what happens in Australia, and Europe and America possibly matters in a world of Seven plus billion people mostly living a subsistence existence in Africa and Asia. The bulk of those folk want a standard of living that mirrors the better parts of ours. You think they will forgo electricity, petrochemicals, iron, steel and cement and sacrifice the possibility of an improved standard of living for their children just to limit global warming? Think again. You think you can make them? Think again.
The latter begs the question about exactly who is supposed to make the sacrifices to lifestyle necessary to achieve your utopian dream. The answer is of course: "Not you". You imagine a future where you and like minded souls walk to work or ride electric scooters around Balmain or Northcote - you live a privileged "sustainable" lifestyle based on levels of infrastructure that are unattainable for the rest of Australia let alone in Asia and Africa. So we folk in regional Australia are expected to do without IC engine cars, gas and oil for energy, watch our productive farmland being "reclaimed into national parks for your enjoyment. Meanwhile you expect us to provide you with a never ending stream of (organic) vegetarian food and fibre. Think again. To put that another way, we don't have (renewable) electric powered combine harvesters or tractors that would enable us to grow more than a fraction of what we grow now for the world.
That's where the two hundred million dead are going to arise from right NOW. Your stupid policies of limiting investment in coal, oil and gas are already driving up prices of food and that means the poorest of us are going to starve to death right NOW. Look at what happened in Sri Lanka when the idiot (green) government banned the importation of artificial fertiliser - their food and export crops collapsed and with it their already shaky economy.
But wait there is more. Our civilisation is built on electricity, steel, cement and artificial fertilisers primarily produced from natural gas (Ammonia synthesis). You got any meaningful way to produce those products at the mega levels we need every day without burning fossil fuels? Nope.
But! But! Technology you say. Well lets start by increasing copper mining and smelting by some 7000% to produce enough for a grid and electric vehicles - care to think what that will do to the environment? Have you done the calculations on what would be required in infrastructure terms to replace say half the IC engine vehicles in Australia, let alone the rest of the world? Didnt think so. But "renewables" - dont make me laugh, and we are going to build "wind farms in Bass Straight"? Ever been there? Not going to happen. i wont even dwell on the current engineering problems associated with delivering a small insignificant fraction of what you want. And for good measure GA and RAA exists because it is the lowest cost form of time sensitive transport for Australia and it even has a place in Europe and America whose terrestrial transport infrastrcture is already way better than ours but that is not going to stop you and Gretas acolytes in Canberra.
You have been sold an impossible dream, unfortunately what you will get unless people come to their senses, is what is possible and you may not like it - shivering, cold, hungry and jobless as you will be.