[QUOTE][The "trick" was to not try to move the cyclic but rather just apply some pressure on it in the direction you wanted it to move and let the normal feedback actually move the cyclic for you/QUOTE]Pity no one ever mentioned the "trick" rather than hammering home the don't try to hover message, of course wind will help in a hover case. In all my time only ever had one acquaintance lose hydraulics, non combat Huey Vietnam.