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Old 25th Feb 2023, 12:32
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Originally Posted by punkalouver
Hans Brinker is a good example of the intentionally twisted and misleading arguments that we see from his type. I post a detailed article on why there are so few female airline pilots(dislike of lifestyle) which also states that pretty much all the females that have decided to become airline pilots are airline pilots(or on their way).

Yet, a he asks “So just because women think differently they shouldn't be pilots?” as if that was somehow insinuated when it is obvious that it was not. It is a typical style from these sort of people to put words in your mouth and try to change the conversation away from a detailed, credible explanation and back to the false narrative that they put forth which is that it must be discrimination.

And once again the truth comes out in the end. The truth that despite the fact that no male in today’s pool of male pilot candidates is guilty of discrimination in the past yet must be put in a system that gives someone else, who never benefitted from past discrimination……’extra opportunity’.

Providing extra opportunity is guaranteed not to be based on raw talent but other factors which in the case of male female ratios, comes down to one simple item, even if they pretend there are other factors.

One might ask themselves a question on a more direct situation. Imagine you or your loved one needed some difficult, easy to screw up heart or brain surgery to survive. Where would you want the surgery done. At the facility that strictly hires the best based on a medical achievement formula or the one determined to provide extra opportunity to part of the population in a way to more equalize their roster due to what they say were discriminatory race and gender practices of the past.

Be honest.

And be a decent human being by ending discrimination by really ending discrimination by simply hiring only what are felt to be the best.

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However, with two different points of view having been made on this thread, I am happy to work toward getting the thread get back to discussion of the technical events of the incident and what can be done to avoid. I will take that first step.

A simple advisory to ATC that one will have a delay on the runway prior to departure is the most obvious one from a pilots point of view. This should be done prior to crossing the hold short line. If one forgot and then suddenly remembered after crossing the hold short line, ATC should be clearly advised of the delay problem so that they can sort things out.

If this had been done, this thread would likely not exist.
I disagree, Not clearing another aircraft to Takeoff in extremely low visibility, while another Aircraft is 3 Miles away is the root cause of this problem! Secondary issue is how aware the Southwest crew was of the location of the FedEx Jet. I know Southwest was told by the Tower that FedEx was on a 3 mile final, but they may have missed that part of the Tower clearance. As far as hiring issues, there are posts on a few other forums, alluding to the fact that the Tower controller has had performance issues at another facility, pleaded the “R#@&ist” card and was relocated to Austin. Don’t shoot the messenger, but if a Tower controller cleared another jet for takeoff, at a quiet airport, while I was on 3 mile final flying a CAt III approach, I would be incredulous. It’s either an honest mistake, or the controller may be unsuited for this job.
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