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Old 21st Jan 2023, 02:50
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Originally Posted by Pattern is full
Add 1m to that eyepoint-tread height to account for strut extension and eagleclaw-tilted bogie position, to estimate the pilot's eyes will be 8m (26.4 ft) above the trailing main gear wheel tread.
Originally Posted by Brace Brace
​​​​​​​I do would like to add these ideas are related to the 747 (maybe A380 as well?). Not "heavies". Even on a 777 you use same procedures as on a 737. There is no reason to go higher.
This document:
https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files...ation-v5.0.pdf
Gives a A330-300 eye to wheel height of over 10m.

By my calculations, on that runway, with an assumed PAPI angle of 3° located at just under 287m (giving a MEHt of 49ft), the wheels will cross the fence at 12ft and touchdown, with no flare, at less than 50m in. And that is on 2W2R. That is why they install "big jet" PAPIs with a MEHt of around 65ft.

Anybody thinking a 777 is the same as a 737 is this scenario is, IMO, mistaken.

Originally Posted by EI_DVM
​​​​​​​with proper technique (crossing threshold at 50', touchdown within touchdown zone etc.
Made more difficult when the PAPI "encourages" your mains to be only 12ft over the piano keys.

The 330 may have great brakes; it's where the PAPI leaves you which is the problem.


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