John, I have a great deal of respect for those who have gone before me. Both survived it and those who haven't. Could be me tomorrow. I'd love to understand more about the real causes of these breakups, ALL of the factors. Not just the standard trotted out rubbish. I read regularly the Chieftain breakup north of Condoblin. The survey 210 and the A300 out of New York, personally I need to constantly remind myself of consequences, of the things I have control over and the things I haven't. The more things I can into the 'things I can control' bucket the better.