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Old 4th Dec 2022, 07:07
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
The figure of £28,000,000 in deposits taken rings a bell from my previous mention of the failed Elio Motors company.

That was the amount taken in non refundable deposits by that company, too. Sadly, in that case, it was mainly taken from people on lower incomes who were promised a radical design of 3 wheeled road vehicle, which would supposedly undercut everything else on the market. Prototypes were made, but there was difficulty with the legislators, radical design changes were made, the purchase price keep going up, but there never was a working factory and not one production vehicle ever appeared.

I was initially very enthusiastic and very interested in buying one of these little cars (although I always knew the stated mpg figure was over-optimistic) but it very soon became apparent to me that the production timescale just being stretched further into the distance. In reality it turned out to be a crowdfunding exercise for an engineer with a vision, rather than a business with a realistic target. It became a race to find more punters before the business went bust and it failed. The whole thing was regrettable. All the punters lost their deposits and the company owners eventually received a large fine. I understand that the company is still aiming to produce vehicles, having changed to electric power, but there is still no sign of any.

I’d love to see Hill Helicopter’s design come right but I just think the targets are unrealistic, for reasons stated above.
Well put, Shy. I simply can't escape the feeling that the £495k price was chosen as a price point to meet, rather than because it represents a sensible level based on traditional costing factors.

I'm sure Jason Hill is a brilliant engineer; however one problem with an autocracy is that his word is the final word. If he had surrounded himself with sensible businessmen who could challenge and question, the pricing may have been a bit more sensible and the product targets more realistic.

This latest deposit/cash grab smacks of money trouble.
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