Originally Posted by
Clop_Clop
I don't know but maybe it's because of the covid policy other factors leading to excess deaths could decrease as a result of those in NZ, and there were no other stuff going on like normal flu's heatwaves etc so you'll see fewer excess deaths for 2020 and 2021...
Yep. Usually the year after a bad flu season there is a drop in all-cause numbers. An artefact of the flu causing the earlier death of those who were 12 to 24 months away from departing due other morbidities. The USA data supports that with at least 85% of those claimed dying ‘from’ the china virus having at least
four other co-morbidities. Nothing like a bit of media and government induced hysteria giving a nocebo induced hurry along to the grave.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo
For my thoughts, I’d say still to early to tell just what the numbers are telling us for New Zealand. NZ had severely stupid lock-downs which may have just caused a lag in the inevitable. The current raise in all-cause may be an artefact of all the lock-down created un-diagnosed heart or cancer issues playing out… or it could be an artefact of the vaccines. I await Euromomo.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-m...res-by-country. …where surprisingly there don’t appear to be much of that ‘post flu’ drop in numbers. What’s filling in the usual dip in the graph?