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Old 2nd Nov 2022, 14:21
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Lonewolf_50
 
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ORAC
: Senior Russian military leaders recently had conversations to discuss when and how Moscow might use a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine, contributing to heightened concern in Washington and allied capitals, according to multiple senior American officials.…
How do the American 'sources' know that? A few observations at your link:
Feels like something Russians leaked to scare the Americans and force negotiations. If not, then Russian channels are completely compromised by US intel.
Wonder if we've got a Mole in there somewhere.
From how it sounds I'm pretty sure it was "leaked" on purpose
The Russians do have some different ways to send signals, yes.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
one does hope that behind closed doors they are telling the Russians privately one nuclear explosion in Ukraine will result in an equal response in Moscow or similar, just to show that the consequences will be that severe and leave them under no pretensions that the result will be anything else.
If you can get 30 nations to agree to that, such a communique might be sent. There may be some NATO nations, like France, who are not keen at all about escalation. And Germany might be feeling that way at the moment.
Originally Posted by ORAC
Grain convoys to continue with ships bearing the Turkish flag and under the protection of the Turkish navy. Would an attack trigger Article 6?
Probably not, but I suspect a high level consultation would be in order, as I am sure that NATO has a contingency plan for that very thing already drafted.
Originally Posted by Timmy Tomkins
The grain issue is an opportunity for NATO navy to escort the ships, just to make it clear we mean business because I doubt he thinks we do.
Do you mean a flotilla made up of NATO ships from various nations (similar to Operation Sharp Guard), or, as the Turks have already done, provide ships to escort and they (Turkey) are in NATO?
Wonder if the Romanians or Bulgarians are contributing to the escort mission. They are in NATO as well.
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