Originally Posted by
NutLoose
Any use of a nuke is a red line, and you cannot let that slide period!
If you do, the idea of Mutual Assured Destruction goes right out of the window, if you open that can of worms, you have to live with the consequences and cannot ever put the lid back on it..
I wish people would stop using the word “Tactical” as if a “Tactical” nuclear weapon is ok, it’s a nuke period, and any nuclear weapon, regardless of size is NOT acceptable in any shape or form.
THE ONLY RESPONSE IS A NUCLEAR RESPONSE, because if you do not adhere to the concept of MAD and ignore it, you are in effect okaying the use of nuclear weapons in any future conflict, and there are countries out there that will take advantage that failure to the detriment of us all.
Maybe so nutty, but I would think that the SIOP would have a proportional response step that in this case could well be overwhelming conventional PGM targeting all known Russian positions in Ukraine. While spinning up every other system that exists. For France and the UK, they need to be putting every boomer out on patrol ASAP, as should the USA, Putin may get the message that "with great power.." etc.
It is past time to acknowledge that Putin is a leader of a Terrorist State.
BTW, Russia tried to hack the Ukraines election in 2014, even going on their TV showing the forged and falsified documents that were supposed to have been achieved by their hacking plan. So much for non-interference in internal matters etc.
As a terrorist, lawless state, they need to be travel banned in all civilised nations, and they have no place in the UN at any level. including the malodorous Lavrov, and the rest of the corrupt government system. Why should Lavrov be afforded any courtesy, his goon squads just beat to death a young girl who was protesting against the actions of Putin in the last 48 hours, she is the embodiment of hope for a better Russia, as is Navalny. Time for secondary sanctions to start being drawn up.
P.S.: Starting reforger to provide hardware for Ukraine would send a message to Putin to either put up or shut up. As I have said before, the A-10s are a low lag option, and are able to give options for Ukraine that may be helpful. Ukraine has been incredibly restrained in their response so far.
Hate nukes with a passion, but there is no door #9 that gives an option to not stand up to a terrorist threat to use nukes, which Putin just did.